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RE: siamese prices

SIAMESELOVERX1 — Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:54:57 GMT

HELLO.. I HAVE A SIAMESE AND HE IS MY SECOND ONE.. LET ME TELL YOU IF YOU HAVE NEVER HAD ONE THEY ARE THE BEST. HE LOVES TO CUDDLE .. HE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FIRST CAT EITHER.. WE PAID 200.00 FOR HIM AND THAT WAS 4 YEARS AGO, FROM A WOMEN WHO WAS A VET IN WISCONSIN BREEDING THEM.

RE: siamese prices

jynnan tonnix — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:39:28 GMT

We just got a part-Siamese kitten from the Humane society, and I've been doing a bit of research on the breed since. I agree that I much prefer the "traditional" Siamese cat to the extreme ones which seem to be the show-ring standard today, but I've also read that the original Siamese cats WERE of a more long, angular type than the breed later became--"traditional" Siamese being the watered-down standard, if you will, and that breeders today are actually bringing it back to something closer to the original. It still seems a bit extreme to me (as with the modern Persians, which are a complete caricature, IMO). But I just wondered if anyone knew the real progression.

At any rate, I always assumed, somehow, that I wasn't a real fan of Siamese cats. That whole "We are Siamese if you please..." stereotype turned me off, as did the reputation for yowling. But our new furbaby, Onyx, was just too cute to ignore, and it didn't even occur to me that he had Siamese in his background until he was identified as such on his paperwork. He had "pointed" littermates, but is all black and semi long-haired.

I'm now seeing more of the Siamese in his build and character. He's extremely active and inquisitive, but also extremely social (and IS a very vocal little guy)...He also likes riding around on someone's shoulders and carrying little tropies around (he stole a book of stamps off the bookshelf yesterday, and was ever so proud of himself), which I've read are also Siamese characteristics.

If anyone knows more about these cats, I'd like more info, as he is shaping up to be quite fascinating.

RE: siamese prices

Maria3 — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:33:08 GMT

If you buy a cat, go and visit the breeder. Look how he keeps the cats and how they are raised.

Siamese are very talkative cats, and usually are like prima donnas. They like lots of attention. Many of them don't want to be alone for hours. And they protest about it.

They are also very affectionate. If you are sure you can provide for the kind of attention they need you can take one of them. If you aren't sure I would search for another kind of cat.

Of course every cat is a law into himself. But everyone will tell you siamese are very peculiar in their character

I like Thai cats the more. Present siamese cats are like a parody

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SuperCat — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 19:05:53 GMT

I totally agree w/wearesiamese. Just look at what they did to the Persian Breed!

Below is a Persian Champion from 1933:

Now a picture of today's Persian - this is a photo from the Cat Fancier's Show:

Their noses have almost become BELLY BUTTONS! They have breathing problems, nose tumors, etc.

It is a disgrace! What are we doing to these breeds?

I saw that this was originally posted almost a year ago in 2007, but I think it is a very important issue!

RE: siamese prices

Ocimom — Sun, 13 Jul 2008 18:48:14 GMT

It depends on what type of Siamese you are looking for. I like the long slender build of the show Siamese as well as the moderate types - both have their own beauty.

Depending on the lines and if the cats are shown you would be looking at several hundred dollars - most breeds are running about $500-600 for pet kittens. This usually includes all shots and neuter/spay. I'd rather pay an extra hundred or two and have the kitten spayed/neutered before I got them then to do it later. If you add up the costs it works out about the same - just that you put all the money up front.

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mattrac — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 12:03:46 GMT

There is a website that links to different animal shelters and rescue. The website is petfinder.com. I found a siamese rescue in my own county.

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cats_dolls — Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:11:28 GMT

WeareSiamese - I actually agree with you, I greatly prefer the "traditional" cats - Siamese, Persian, Himalayan, Balinese - to the more "modern-looking" cats of those breeds. But in general, I'd look for breeders who show their cats, because usually a breeder who succeeds in the show has sound, healthy cats.

That having been said, though, I've visited your website and I do like your kitties and I like what you've said about your breeding program. Matter of fact, if I had room for one more cat, I'd certainly want to talk to you about your kitties! And I'm not sure I understand, are you saying that you cannot show your beautiful Traditional Siamese, or that they won't win? That's awful!

I also will confess that I haven't ever owned a Siamese and don't know much about the breed, but I do know that some breeds are prone to health concerns that make breeding practices even more vital - I have a Scottish Fold kitten, and Scottish Folds are one of the breeds that you have to be extra-careful about breeding. Again, not knowing the Siamese breed, I don't know what health issues, if any, they're prone to.

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wearesiamese — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:57:10 GMT

I want to politely disagree with your statement to look for breeders who show,as those show breeders have almost ruined the Siamese breed,and have tried to change it from what it originally was to a charicature of the beloved cat most of us grew up loving(like D.C. from That Darn Cat with Hayley Mills). I hate to even say that those of us who breed Classic/Traditional/Applehead type Siamese exclusively are mor or less preservationist breeders,but the Old-Style Siamese are becoming hard to find, and Appleheads won't even get a look in the show ring because some of the extreme wedgehead breeders got together and changed the breed standard to suit their (IMHO questionable) taste,regardless f the breed's historical appearence,temperament,and health! Showing has ruined many purebred cat and dog breeds(I have Czech line German Shepherds as American shepherds are junk these days,have poor nerves,can't work,poor hips,and do not meet the SV breed standard.) Find a good breeder with a record of breeding healthy cats,longevity,and good dispositions,regardless of breed.The pedigree is nice to have but ultimately a good pet is a good pet whether or not it has been shown!

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RE: siamese prices

Willow — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 18:21:31 GMT

If you want to look into adotping, instead of buying from a breeder, here's a link to Siamese Rescue: http://www.siameserescue.org/ . They even have kittens available frequently, though they'll only adopt them in pairs (or make you promise to adopt another kitten from a shelter), because kittens should not be alone. Or you can check your local shelters----Siamese are very common, and very overbred, and so most shelters have at least one Siamese cat up for adotion at any given time. Don't support a substandard breeder, no matter how cute the kittens are---not only do you raise the risk of getting a sick kitty, you don't want to encourage them in their bad breeding practices.

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cats_dolls — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:54:14 GMT

Shelter kitties are great - but purebred kitties need good homes too, and if you're in love with some of the characteristics of a particular breed, getting a purebred may be what you need. You can always get a purebred kitten and then get a shelter kitty for a playmate - two kitties aren't any more effort than one, and they do seem to particularly appreciate having a playmate cat!

I don't know about pet-quality pricing for Siamese cats, but you can find breeders of all kinds on www.breedlist.com.

I'd look for a breeder who shows his or her cats, because they have to pay more attention to type. Ask the breeder lots of questions about the breed and about his/her specific cats - what health concerns, if any, is that breed prone to? How are the kittens raised - are they caged, or do they roam free in the breeder's house? How many cats does the breeder have? How long has he/she been breeding cats? How long has he/she been breeding this particular breed? Why is the breeder breeding these cats? What does the breeder feed the cats, and what kind of litter does he/she use? What vaccinations does the breeder give?

Expect the breeder to ask you lots of questions too - the more questions, the better. A good breeder really cares about the kittens he/she raises and will want to assure himself/herself that the kitten is going to a home where it will be properly cared for. You should be prepared to answer what kind of home you have - apartment or house, how many people, any children, other pets? Will you keep the cat indoors or outdoors or both? Many breeders will want the cat to be indoors-only. Will you declaw the cat? This is a hot issue, and many breeders will prohibit declawing in their contracts. Will the cat be left alone much of the time? What activity level are you looking for? Why are you interested in acquiring a cat? Why this breed? What veterinarian do you/will you use? Some breeders will even ask you for references, and many breeders will want to stay in touch and follow the kitten's growth. I have a purebred, and my breeder is always delighted when I send her updates on how my cat is growing and include photos of her.

If you can, visit the cattery. Notice how clean it is. Observe the cats - do they appear healthy? Friendly? No runny noses, watery eyes, dirty rear ends? Kittens running around playing, or seem lethargic?

Finally - the breeder should ask you to sign a contract. Usually the contract will describe the specific cat or kitten in terms of age, sex, breed, color, quality (pet, breeder, or show). It will list the price and show the breeder as seller and you as buyer. It may include clauses about keeping the cat indoors, declawing, vaccinations, provide that the cat will be provided a sanitary environment and provided necessary veterinary care, will or will not be given certain vaccinations. It will probably include a statement that the cat will never be given or sold to a research facility or a shelter - some breeders will specify that if you cannot keep this cat for any reason, the cat is to be returned to the breeder. Whatever the terms of the contract are, make sure you're comfortable with them. If you're looking online, lots of breeders have their contracts on their websites.

Good luck in your search - hope we'll soon be hearing stories about the fun you're having with your new kitten!

RE: siamese prices

allmycats — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 13:54:40 GMT

Why not adopt one from the shelters? There are so many cat/kittens that need homes and end up getting put to sleep because everyone wants one from a breeder.

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Victoria — Sun, 05 Aug 2007 07:50:51 GMT

Hi, I am looking into buying a Siamese kitten from a breeder and was wondering what some average prices might be for a 'pet' quality kitten.

Also any suggestions as to what to look for in a breeder would be appreciated.

Many thanks.

Victoria