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| well we are in the same sittuation but we arnt for sure weather the cat is pregnet yet but if she was we were just gonna take care of the kittens until they werent nursing anymore and take her kittens to the humane sociaty this cat has no identification either and the dont feed there cat so we do there dog had ran away recently b/c they leave there gate open and the didnt feed him either you could see his hip bones and his ribs it made me sick so we stareted to feed him they just got a new puppy and that made me mad b/c they cant even take care of what they had please let me know what you decide thanks, kallie
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| yes please do not confront the home way to dangerous oh and dont take the cat and to a pound if there not adopted in one week they put them down witch is stupid its not there fault they cant find a home
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Cat-tastrophe, in response to your 2/24 posting, not one person here on cat channel has ever said that all cats that are outside are being abused and need to be saved. Most of us believe that our cats are safer indoors and since we love them so much we keep them inside to keep them safe from harm. I am sure that no one here drives around their neighborhood looking to abduct cats that are outside and take them to local shelters and to say that we all have "cat-forbidden yards" is just ridiculous. Obviously Montyboy has a reason to believe the cat in question here is not being properly cared for or he/she wouldn't have posted to begin with.
A cat is not happy just because it is allowed outside and I cannot begin to understand how you can think it would be kind for a cat to be run over by a car and die a painful death. After reading your post I have come to the conclusion that you seem to want to preach your ideas to everyone here, but you don't want to listen when someone has a different opinion. You should learn to be less judgmental.
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| Cat-tastrophe - I'm probably going to surprise the heck out of you here, but I'm going to stand up for you this time! As you know, we disagree on some areas of cat care. And at first, it did seem to me that you were dead set on convincing everyone else that your way was the only way, and those of us who kept our cats indoors and had them neutered were just misguided and totally wrong. I have begun to see some flexibility in some of your more recent posts, indicating that you are willing to listen and accept others' views. I think we owe you the same courtesy - we need to listen to you with open minds too. I still believe that in most situations, it's better to keep a cat indoors, and I believe that most of us should spay/neuter our cats, the exception being those who are breeders of purebreds. I promise to pay attention to your viewpoints, though, and to remember that with cats, there is no one-way-fits-all.
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hear hear!
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Cat-tastrophe, I'm sorry if you think I was harsh, but your 2/24 post was certainly harsh too. Cats dolls is right, you have shown flexibility recently which is why I was so surprised by that post. I don't want you to think that just because some people feel that cats are safer indoors we go around stealing other people's outdoor cats. Your ideas and my ideas are different from each other, but there's nothing wrong with that, there's no law that says we have to agree! In the future I will try not to be so harsh and I hope that you will try not to assume that we are bad because our methods are a little unorthodox. We sometimes get carried away simply because we care about animals and want to help.
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i have a simular prob kinda. one of my neighbors has about 7 cats i'm not agingst that, but she does not care for them properly. she is seldom home, they live and breed in the shed with the garbage. she is not breeding for show. she just tosses a bag of food on the porch they fend for them selves. i spoke to the land owner if she neeed help getting them fixed,[i know of some resurses she could use] i evn would help s much as i can,and so would the other neighbors.we just don't want to see a lot of unwanted kittens that will end up dead one way or another. i have 3 cats of my own [all fixed] they are very happy. i also don't want to get animal control involved,they will ticket her and destroy the cats. we need to be responsible pet owners.
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| I live out in the country, and too many people still think of cats as "barn animals". The cats run wild -- no shots, no spaying, neutering.... etc. They put cheap dry food out for them that they buy in bulk from area farm stores, etc. One farm gal that I was talking to recently was telling me how a great horned owl was snatching up all of her barn kittens. She said it was so exciting and her grandkids would come over to watch. She finally did something about deterring the owl when it started in on her chickens... because you can't have an owl taking your good livestock! Needless to say, I was horrified! This mentality is more common then you would think. People who grew up on farms move into the city or suburbs and think nothing of having tons of cats -- and treating them like barn cats. 
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Willow (2/21/2009)You are young and idealistic.......truth is, in most places, law enforcement DOES NOT CARE what happens to cats. If you call the regular cops the chance they will do something is slightly less, but that is why we have the ASPCA.Willow (2/21/2009)There are no rescues (maybe a horrible, high-kill city shelter), and very few things are illegal when it comes to how you treat cats. They're considered wild animals, and there are no welfare laws concerning wild animals. Spaying (or doing anything else) to a cat on your property IS NOT ILLEGAL. Where on God's green Earth do you live? Considered wild animals? You can do anything you want to your animals without legal action being taken against you? Either you're nuts or the place where you live has serious issues. And there are lots of no-kill sheltors. You just aren't looking hard enough.Willow (2/21/2009)the truth is that most kittens born will not live to be a year old. What?? Where are you getting your information? Willow (2/21/2009)In short, if someone doesn't want something to happen to their cat, they need to keep it on their property. You have no right to tell someone they have to keep their cats indoors. I personally think all cats should be kept inside just for the fact that they live safer, healthier lives, but that does NOT mean that someone who doesn't keep them inside is a bad cat owner. It just means they have a different idea of what makes a happy life for a cat.Willow (2/21/2009)If they allow their pets off their property, they need to accept whatever happens. If you give up control, you can't object when others take control. People like you truely frighten me. Basically what you're saying is that if someone doesn't follow your ideals and beliefs as to the proper way to care for a cat then you will MAKE them follow you by FORCE. History is littered with people who did the same thing and some of the most horrific tradgedies have resulted (Can you say holocaust?). Maybe I'm a tad extreme in some of my examples, but taking someone's pet that they love and take care of and feed is wrong. If you had proof that the animal is/was abused then more power to ya. But if you're taking the cat just to satisfy your need to enforce your beliefs then you are not a good person. 
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| Songbird, before you burn Willow on a stake I hope you will take some time to check her threads and other posts. We all got very heated on this topic. I believe it is because we all see so much abuse and neglect going on that we end up venting. The truth is that much research shows that cats living on their own only live a few years, on the average. Most shelters do euthanize more animals than they can find homes for. And police are often the only authorities available. I think some views were taken somewhat out of context. I do hope that you will read many more threads, get a better picture of all of us, and tell us something about yourself. Please get to know the people here and don't judge us on so little info. We come from some very different parts of this country, and others, and areas vary a great deal on resources.
CricketYou don't have to be crazy to be my friend, but it helps!!! 
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