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Posted 7/19/2009 1:50:19 PM


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Yea it is!

"I look at all the caged animals in the shelter...the cast-offs of human society.I saw in their eyes love and hope,fear and dread,sadness and betrayal.And I was angry."God" I said,this is terrible!Why dont you do something?God was silent for a moment and then He spoke softly."I have done something,"He replied."I created you"~Jim Willis

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Posted 7/24/2009 5:09:21 PM


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I have a new question about breeding.

While I have been looking at the cattery/breeder pages  I notice things like just for instance Scottish Fold kittens, sometimes they don't have folding ears?  Does it just happen that sometimes they don't pick-up the trait look of the breed?   Does the breeder still breed them or do they sell at a lower price?

  

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Posted 7/24/2009 8:51:21 PM


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You are 100% correct, Downtown Kitty!  The gene that folds the ears is a dominant gene - if the cat inherits the gene from either parent, he will have folded ears.  If not, then he'll still be a Scottish Fold but he will have straight ears.

Straight-eared Folds make the same wonderful pets as the folded-ear Folds, they just have "normal" ears.  So breeders sell them as pets. And yes, pet-quality straight-eared Folds are usually sold at lower prices that pet-quality fold-eared Folds. My first two Folds were half-sisters and one did have the folded ears but the other had straight ears.  Both had big round eyes and sweet expressions, and both were very loving, sweet-tempered cats.

OR sometimes the breeder will keep the straight-eared Folds to use in her breeding program.  The gene that folds the ears also can cause osteochondritis, an arthritis-like condition in their hips, and short, stiffened tails.  So you really don't want to breed two folded-ear cats together - you want either a folded-ear and a straight-ear Fold, or you want a folded-ear Fold and a British Shorthair or an American Shorthair.  Both are allowable "outcrosses" to enlarge the gene pool and to minimize the risk of the cats developing osteochondritis.

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Posted 7/24/2009 9:34:10 PM


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This is so interesting to me. 

Did you see the Highlander cat I asked about in a different thread?

  

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Posted 7/25/2009 8:47:56 AM


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I did see that thread - didn't reply because someone else had already said exactly what I thought, the cat shown looked like a cross between an American Curl and one of the wilder breeds.

FYI, I understand that American Curls are very much like Scottish Folds in that the gene is dominant and if the Curl inherits one copy of the gene, he will be a curly.  I don't know if there are still allowable outcrosses to that breed, though, as I don't believe they have any detrimental issues related to the gene that curls their ears.  But I don't know as much about them as I do Foldies!

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Posted 7/25/2009 7:41:49 PM


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Wow!I am learning alot of stuff!!

"I look at all the caged animals in the shelter...the cast-offs of human society.I saw in their eyes love and hope,fear and dread,sadness and betrayal.And I was angry."God" I said,this is terrible!Why dont you do something?God was silent for a moment and then He spoke softly."I have done something,"He replied."I created you"~Jim Willis

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Posted 8/19/2009 12:08:30 PM


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http://www.catchannel.com/news/2009/08/19/california-intact-animal-cap-bill-heads-to-senate.aspx

I pasted the above link and I am unsure about this bill they want to pass.

It says something to the effect that it would be illegal to have more than 50 total animals for the purposes of Breeding.  I think that includes the pups/kits.

Hear is my new Breeder question;  Is this more of a "Mill" combatant than a reputable breeder restriction?

50 animals is a lot for a Breeder to have right?  It's overkill in my opinion, I mean even if you had 3 sets of animals breeding and they had 5 offspring each that's a lot of babies to take care of.

  

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Posted 8/19/2009 2:08:18 PM


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If I were ever to be in the market for another purebred cat and I discovered that a breeder I was talking to had 50 cats, including the kittens and the breeding cats, I would run like heck!  To me, that screams "mill" and I'd seriously question the level of care the cats were receiving.  Although there could be some who can provide adequate care for that many cats, a cattery of that size indicates to me that this is a business venture rather than an honest love of the breed. The breeders I've talked to, including the breeder I got Kearstie from, have all maintained much smaller catteries - like one or two breeding males and maybe four to five breeding females, and not all of the females would have litters at the same time.

This, again, is why it's a good idea to visit a cattery whenever possible before you plunk your $$ down - you get to see for yourself how the cats are cared for, how many cats there are, etc. 

I'm not so sure that legislation like this is a good idea - not too happy with so many laws - but if those who want purebreds do their homework first and vote with their wallets, that's probably more effective!

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